Comments on: Why does Isaiah 9:6 call Jesus “Mighty God, Everlasting Father”?

By: Jon Morgan

Jon Morgan — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:02:53 +0000

It is true that Jesus and God are now in heaven. However, that does not mean that the kingdom of heaven will be in heaven. From the time of Abraham on, God’s promises have been about the earth, but they have been about an earth made new and following the will of God. For more details, see http://bibleq.info/answer/3490/.

By: Steven

Steven — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:28:03 +0000

When John the Babtist saw the spirt descend upon Jesus like a dove and a voice from heaven proclaim “this is my Son in whom I am well pleased”, pretty much confrims that Jesus is not the Father. Unless he is a master ventriloquist they are two. He tells his disciples that the Father is in him and he is in his disciples, this doesn’t mean they are all one being. How can God be seated at the right hand of himself? In Exodus God tells Moses he will make him “like God”, to Pharoah. Snce the Father has given authority to the Son I’m sure he did seem like God in every aspect yet they knew the difference. Saint Paul say, “the head of woman is man, the head of man is Christ, and the head of Christ is the Father. They understood the difference. The concept of the Trinity wasn’t even established untill between 300 and 400 AD by the Church. After the jugment is completed it says in Revelations that Jesus will give all authority back to the Father, we will see both Jesus and the Father when we finally meet in Heaven but untill then we know that the only way to the Father is through the Son. As long as we agree on that, we are headed on the right path.

By: Jonathan Morgan

Jonathan Morgan — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:24:22 +0000

That he is the exact image of the Father and that he shows the Father does not mean that he is the Father, or that he is God. In fact, in John 5 he explains to the Jews that he is that way because he voluntarily chose to watch his Father and to act like him. Most children will imitate their Father in some ways: Jesus took this further by imitating his Father in every possible way so that he could show the character of the Father to us.

By: stephen baptist

stephen baptist — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:38:18 +0000

Isaiah clearly states that there is only one GOd, and there in none like HIM on earth nor in Heaven, yet at the same time he calls this child MIGHTY GOD thus providing the thesis for the doctirne on the Trinity. There are no gods or anyone like GOD. The only one who is the exact image of the father and in all respects like the father is Jesus himself.

By: Jonathan Morgan

Jonathan Morgan — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:41:28 +0000

As said in the above answer, the fact that the name of God is applied to Jesus does not make him God, merely that he is acting in the name of God. The biggest thing that would make me think it wasn’t saying that he was God is that it then goes on to say that God is his God, which doesn’t seem to make sense if he himself is God.

As for Hebrews 1:10, quoting from a different Psalm, it is certainly worth noticing that it does not seem that the heavens and the earth will be literally rolled up or will literally perish. God’s kingdom will be established on this earth. A similar passage in 2 Peter 3 tells us about a new heavens and a new earth, and then explains what this really means: a place where righteousness dwells. The heavens and earth are changed and renewed and the bad on them are removed, they are not completely destroyed and replaced with something totally new.

In the same way, this kind of language is used of the Mosaic law in Hebrews 8, being old and fading away. I think it’s reasonable to view the passage in Hebrews 1 as showing that Jesus was replacing the law established by Moses with the new covenant in his name and the new creation. This fits with the rest of the theme of Hebrews, too.

By: Jonathan Morgan

Jonathan Morgan — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:24:36 +0000

1 John 5:7 is omitted from most Bibles because there are very few manuscripts that include it and those manuscripts are very late (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum). This means it is almost certainly not part of the original text.

For John 10:30, it definitely says that Jesus and his Father are one. The question then becomes “In what way are they one?” You assume that it means he was of “one substance” with God, “possessing the same attributes”. However, I doubt that this is what Jesus is talking about because in John 17 he asks God that all his followers will be one in the same way, and I don’t think we are of “one substance” with the Father.

I would suggest that what he was saying is that he was one in purpose with God: they had the same goal, and they worked together. In the John 10 passage he was talking about working with his Father and doing works in his Father’s name before he said that they were one. In John 5:19 – 20, Jesus explains why they have the same goals and actions: because he is watching the Father, and doing what he sees the Father do, so it is a conscious choice, not just a side effect of being exactly the same as the Father. In the same way, Jesus wanted all of his followers to have the same goal as he had and as his father had, and to work together with them to achieve the goal.

By: Timothy

Timothy — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:01:11 +0000

http://bible.cc/john/10-30.htm

I and the Father are one.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+5%3A7&version=KJV

1 John 5:7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:01:38 +0000

In the Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth Gen 1:1 Hebrews 1:8-10 8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands Hebrews 1:10 establishes Jesus as creator these are the words of the Father therefore He’s God

By: Mike Valovcin

Mike Valovcin — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:55:18 +0000

First of all Jesus said in Matthew “Baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” Notice that it does not say in the names of but in the name of. This is singular not plural. Secondly, Hebrews 1:8 says, “But about the Son He says, ‘Thy throne, Oh GOD, will last forever and ever and righteousness willl be the scepter of your kingdom.” If Jesus is not God in flesh than He did not have the power to save us all from our sins. Only an eternal God can save us for all eternity. It makes no sense if Jesus is not God. You can avoid it all you want, however I would warn you to check your personal salvation if you did not trust in Jesus (fully God fully man.) Why would this be so difficult to accept? We can believe that water can exist in three forms but we cannot believe that God, who is the maker of all things can do something simillar?

By: Rob J Hyndman

Rob J Hyndman — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 22:27:59 +0000

Using that logic, John the apostle was the same person as John the baptist (whose name was given by God).