Comments on: Can you be conscious and dead? http://BibleQ.info/answer/14/ Bible Questions Answered Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Grahame Grieve http://BibleQ.info/answer/14/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Grahame Grieve Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:46:09 +0000 http://www.bibleq.info/wordpress/?p=14#comment-292 I'm not entirely convinced about the 3 classes of people. For a start, what of the dishonourable people who did not know Christ? There's certainly been oodles of those. I can't speak to what God might or might not consider a pointless waste of time. He shown an interest in me, and I would rather have thought that's a pointless waste of time. So what would I know? Or anyone else? All we know is what he says. <blockquote> As for angels, they do not die. (Luke 20:36.) </blockquote> The wider subject of devils is dealt with elsewhere. See <a href="http://bibleq.info/answer/tag/demons" rel="nofollow">"demons"</a> or <a href="http://bibleq.info/answer/tag/devil" rel="nofollow">"devil"</a> in the topic index. I’m not entirely convinced about the 3 classes of people. For a start, what of the dishonourable people who did not know Christ? There’s
certainly been oodles of those.

I can’t speak to what God might or might not consider a pointless waste of time. He shown an interest in me, and I would rather have
thought that’s a pointless waste of time. So what would I know? Or anyone else? All we know is what he says.

As for angels, they do not die. (Luke 20:36.)

The wider subject of devils is dealt with elsewhere. See “demons” or “devil” in the topic index.

]]> By: Todd R http://BibleQ.info/answer/14/comment-page-1/#comment-281 Todd R Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:20:08 +0000 http://www.bibleq.info/wordpress/?p=14#comment-281 Your explanation of the soul and state of death explains that there are three kinds of people, honorable people who did not know Christ, people who knew but did not recieve Christ, and those that both knew and did recieve Christ. In the case of the first you have said the scriptures teach that they will not be reconstituted. In the case of the second you have said the scriptures teach they will be reconstituted and punished. In the case of the third this is the group that you say will be reconstituted and have a job to do instructing in the ways of God the Father. But who will they instruct if the only people who were reconstituted are the ones that already know the truth? Also, I am curious what you feel the scriptures teach on those that will be reconstituted and then punished - -presumably by being unconstituted again -- that seems a pointless waste of time on God's part. If they have already recieved the ultimate horror of annihilation ad infinitum why reconstitute them? Finally, I am curious to hear your position on the nature of angels. Do they experience death in the same way you have argued man and beast experience death -- for they are part of the same creation? Why do they seem to linger on the earth, possesing or inhabiting souls (man and beast) or being cast into the 'Pit' until the great reckoning? For remember that when Christ cast 'demons' out of the crazy lake man they begged him not to send them to the pit but into the heard of pigs instead. Thanks, T Your explanation of the soul and state of death explains that there are three kinds of people, honorable people who did not know Christ, people who knew but did not recieve Christ, and those that both knew and did recieve Christ.

In the case of the first you have said the scriptures teach that they will not be reconstituted. In the case of the second you have said the scriptures teach they will be reconstituted and punished. In the case of the third this is the group that you say will be reconstituted and have a job to do instructing in the ways of God the Father.

But who will they instruct if the only people who were reconstituted are the ones that already know the truth?

Also, I am curious what you feel the scriptures teach on those that will be reconstituted and then punished – -presumably by being unconstituted again — that seems a pointless waste of time on God’s part. If they have already recieved the ultimate horror of annihilation ad infinitum why reconstitute them?

Finally, I am curious to hear your position on the nature of angels. Do they experience death in the same way you have argued man and beast experience death — for they are part of the same creation?

Why do they seem to linger on the earth, possesing or inhabiting souls (man and beast) or being cast into the ‘Pit’ until the great reckoning? For remember that when Christ cast ‘demons’ out of the crazy lake man they begged him not to send them to the pit but into the heard of pigs instead.

Thanks,

T

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