Comments on: On what day did Jesus die? http://BibleQ.info/answer/1914/ Bible Questions Answered Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: George Greene http://BibleQ.info/answer/1914/comment-page-1/#comment-903 George Greene Sat, 01 Jan 2011 19:21:07 +0000 http://BibleQ.info/?p=1914#comment-903 Lev 23 backs up what I have said about two special Sabbaths in a row. Lev. 23:1 (NIV)    The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed feasts, the appointed feasts of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies. 3    “ ‘There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a Sabbath to the LORD. 4    “ ‘These are the LORD’S appointed feasts, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5 The LORD’S Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of that month the LORD’S Feast of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present an offering made to the LORD by fire. And on the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.’” In this passage, a 'Sacred Assembly' is equated to a Sabbath. The sacred Assembly of Passover is always celebrated on 14 Nisan. Jesus was in the tomb before sundown on 13 Nisan. The day after Passover is always a special sabbath too on 15 Nisan. The next day was the regular weekly Sabbath. Jesus rose from the grave just as he planned after sundown (while it was still dark) on 17 Nisan. Good Friday is an erroneous tradition and does not have Jesus in the grave for 3 full days and nights. The Jewish day does not start at 6PM. It starts instead at sundown which we all know changes daily. So we actually have two "fixed times" as you say. The first is that Jesus was in the grave prior to Passover which is always and immediately followed by the first day of the Feast of Unleavened bread which is also a special sabbath or 'Sacred Assembly' and we know he came out of the grave AFTER the regular weekly Sabbath thus making 3 days and 3 nights. I suggest that these dates should be the starting points for study. Lev 23 backs up what I have said about two special Sabbaths
in a row. Lev. 23:1 (NIV)    The LORD said to Moses, 2
“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed
feasts, the appointed feasts of the LORD, which you are to proclaim
as sacred assemblies. 3    “ ‘There are six days when you
may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred
assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a
Sabbath to the LORD. 4    “ ‘These are the LORD’S
appointed feasts, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at
their appointed times: 5 The LORD’S Passover begins at twilight on
the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of
that month the LORD’S Feast of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven
days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 On the first day hold
a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present
an offering made to the LORD by fire. And on the seventh day hold a
sacred assembly and do no regular work.’” In this passage, a
‘Sacred Assembly’ is equated to a Sabbath. The sacred Assembly of
Passover is always celebrated on 14 Nisan. Jesus was in the tomb
before sundown on 13 Nisan. The day after Passover is always a
special sabbath too on 15 Nisan. The next day was the regular
weekly Sabbath. Jesus rose from the grave just as he planned after
sundown (while it was still dark) on 17 Nisan. Good Friday is an
erroneous tradition and does not have Jesus in the grave for 3 full
days and nights. The Jewish day does not start at 6PM. It starts
instead at sundown which we all know changes daily. So we actually
have two “fixed times” as you say. The first is that Jesus was in
the grave prior to Passover which is always and immediately
followed by the first day of the Feast of Unleavened bread which is
also a special sabbath or ‘Sacred Assembly’ and we know he came out
of the grave AFTER the regular weekly Sabbath thus making 3 days
and 3 nights. I suggest that these dates should be the starting
points for study.

]]> By: Rob J Hyndman http://BibleQ.info/answer/1914/comment-page-1/#comment-441 Rob J Hyndman Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:32:10 +0000 http://BibleQ.info/?p=1914#comment-441 Your proposal (that Jesus died on the Wednesday and that there were two special sabbaths) is contradicted by the disciples on the road to Emmaus who said that Sunday was "the third day since these things were done" and by Luke who says Jesus was raised "on the third day". Also, writing off the synoptics as having "suspect" dating because they don't fit your proposal is not very satisfactory. You are correct that the synoptic writers appear to make the Last Supper the Passover meal, while John's gospel shows that it can't have been (John 18:28). But to say they are therefore in error is not necessary. It seems that Jesus called the Last Supper a “Passover” to emphasise the fact that this was the New Passover and he was the new Passover lamb. No longer would they celebrate deliverance from Egypt through Moses, but deliverance from sin through Jesus. Your proposal (that Jesus died on the Wednesday and that there were two special sabbaths) is contradicted by the disciples on the road to Emmaus who said that Sunday was “the third day since these things were done” and by Luke who says Jesus was raised “on the third day”. Also, writing off the synoptics as having “suspect” dating because they don’t fit your proposal is not very satisfactory.

You are correct that the synoptic writers appear to make the Last Supper the Passover meal, while John’s gospel shows that it can’t have been (John 18:28). But to say they are therefore in error is not necessary. It seems that Jesus called the Last Supper a “Passover” to emphasise the fact that this was the New Passover and he was the new Passover lamb. No longer would they celebrate deliverance from Egypt through Moses, but deliverance from sin through Jesus.

]]> By: George Greene http://BibleQ.info/answer/1914/comment-page-1/#comment-440 George Greene Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:57:36 +0000 http://BibleQ.info/?p=1914#comment-440 Hello, Last year I completed a study on this issue. I'll summarize it briefly for you: 1. Jesus was laid in the tomb on 13th Nisan. 2. Passover is a special Sabbath on 14th Nisan 3. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is also a special Sabbath on 15th Nisan. 4. Next followed the regular weekly Sabbath. Those are the 3 days that Jesus was in the tomb and he rose from the grave after sundown which is the start of another Jewish day on 17th Nisan. That is why the women could purchase the spices before they went to the tomb. The synoptic gospels have statements about Passion week that are totally impossible to reference on a Jewish calendar therefore making their dating suspect. These gospels appear to have Jesus enjoying the Passover meal but he couldn't have based on dating elsewhere in all 4 gospels. I prepared a 3 part video presentation complete with charts that is available to view online for free at www.inyourbible.com. The lesson numbers are 133 - 135. The first 15 or so minutes might bore you. The meat is in the balance. Please consider, George Hello,
Last year I completed a study on this issue. I’ll summarize it briefly for you:
1. Jesus was laid in the tomb on 13th Nisan.
2. Passover is a special Sabbath on 14th Nisan
3. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is also a special Sabbath on 15th Nisan.
4. Next followed the regular weekly Sabbath.

Those are the 3 days that Jesus was in the tomb and he rose from the grave after sundown which is the start of another Jewish day on 17th Nisan. That is why the women could purchase the spices before they went to the tomb.

The synoptic gospels have statements about Passion week that are totally impossible to reference on a Jewish calendar therefore making their dating suspect. These gospels appear to have Jesus enjoying the Passover meal but he couldn’t have based on dating elsewhere in all 4 gospels.

I prepared a 3 part video presentation complete with charts that is available to view online for free at http://www.inyourbible.com. The lesson numbers are 133 – 135. The first 15 or so minutes might bore you. The meat is in the balance.

Please consider,

George

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